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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:20 am 
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colorend wrote:
It's a netbook, so yes laptop basically. Would it be easier to back up all my files from Ubuntu, install Peppermint normally (overwriting Ubuntu) and then install ubuntu again? Because resizing encryped partitions looks mega-mega-difficult and knowing me i'll probably accidentally blow up my computer or something stupid :D

And I might have a go at installing more Linux-based operating systems too


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:47 am 
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It's a netbook, so yes laptop basically. Would it be easier to back up all my files from Ubuntu, install Peppermint normally (overwriting Ubuntu) and then install ubuntu again?


Backing up would certainly be a good idea :)

Then it's up to you which way you'd like to proceed.

If you're planning on testing a few distro's .. I'd say YES it probably would be easier to format and start again without LUKS .. but your call :)

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:54 am 
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PCNetSpec wrote:
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It's a netbook, so yes laptop basically. Would it be easier to back up all my files from Ubuntu, install Peppermint normally (overwriting Ubuntu) and then install ubuntu again?


Backing up would certainly be a good idea :)

Then it's up to you which way you'd like to proceed.

If you're planning on testing a few distro's .. I'd say YES it probably would be easier to format and start again without LUKS .. but your call :)

Thanks a bunch for your advice, and thanks for the quick reply! :) One last thing, do you know any good back up applications? I'm using the default one in Ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything and I'm afraid I won't be able to open it from Peppermint, or Ubuntu!


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:16 am 
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What are you planning on backing up ? .. and where to ?

I used to use sbackup (should be in the Ubuntu repo's, so is definitely in the Peppermint ones) .. I must add I've never tried it in Peppermint though.
(I just use grsync/rsync now)

But depending on the Ubuntu version and which version you're planning on installing) you might want to be selective on what you backup.

If it's just docs and pics and stuff, it may be easier to just copy them manually to an external drive.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:53 am 
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PCNetSpec wrote:
What are you planning on backing up ? .. and where to ?

I used to use sbackup (should be in the Ubuntu repo's, so is definitely in the Peppermint ones) .. I must add I've never tried it in Peppermint though.
(I just use grsync/rsync now)

But depending on the Ubuntu version and which version you're planning on installing) you might want to be selective on what you backup.

If it's just docs and pics and stuff, it may be easier to just copy them manually to an external drive.

Yeah i have quite a few docs and pics but also a lot of applications, will I be able to backup those?


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:28 am 
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Short of a full disk image (which is no good in your predicament) I'm afraid there's no "easy" way to backup installed applications .. if your reinstalling the SAME version of Ubuntu you *could* backup your /etc/apt directory, and export your package markings from Synaptic.

Then after reinstalling Ubuntu .. copy your old /etc/apt directory to the new install .. then import your package markings.

This is ONLY advisable with the same version of Ubuntu, and it may install some stuff you no longer need (lvm for example).

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Backup strategies are one of the hardest things to give advice on .. I don't know how you use your PC, what you consider important, what kit you have to backup to, what your planned recovery strategy is etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:38 am 
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PCNetSpec wrote:
I'm afraid there's no "easy" way to do this .. if your reinstalling the SAME version of Ubuntu you *could* backup your /etc/apt directory, and export your package markings from Synaptic.

Then after reinstalling Ubuntu .. copy your old /etc/apt directory to the new install .. then import your package markings.

This is ONLY advisable with the same version of Ubuntu, and it may install some stuff you no longer need (lvm for example).

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Backup strategies are one of the hardest things to give advice on .. I don't know how you use your PC, what you consider important, what kit you have to backup to, what your planned recovery strategy is etc.

Well, i was going to try Ubuntu 13.04, released after I got 12.10, but i won't be able to do that if i back it up, so I'll just copy my pics and docs to Dropbox, and make a list of important apps to put on Ubuntu 13.04, and then install a multitude of operating systems, including Peppermint Two (and maybe even Three...) Thankyou ever so much for your help once again :)


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:42 am 
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Be aware .. Peppermint two is based on Ubuntu 11.04, so must be considered "end of life" .. it will receive NO new software or security updates.
(Ubuntu have finished support for 11.04)
It WILL work, but will software will become out of date pretty quickly .. nor will you find many PPA's that still support it.

Peppermint 3 on the other hand is based on 12.04 LTS, so will get updates for 99.9% of it's packages for another 4 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:45 am 
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PCNetSpec wrote:
Be aware .. Peppermint two is based on Ubuntu 11.04, so must be considered "end of life" .. it will receive NO new software or security updates.
(Ubuntu have finished support for 11.04)

Peppermint 3 on the other hand is based on 12.04 LTS, so will get updates for 99.9% of it's packages for another 4 years.

Oh that's interesting. I really can't stand having unsupported software! Peppermint Three it is then!


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 Post subject: Re: Problem with dual booting Peppermint Two and Ubuntu
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Good choice :)

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