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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:42 am 
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Peppermint 3, hence the low version number for pcmanfm.


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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:45 am 
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A number of file associations seem to be broken in pcmanfm. It insists on treating .xlsx, .docx, and .pptx files as archives, even giving them an archive icon, but if I open them, they open in the proper office applications.

Do you know where the pcmanfm file associations are stored? Not in the config in ~/.config/pcmanfm/peppermint and ~/.config/pcmanfm/default those configs are very brief. Perhaps in /usr/share/applications or something like that, I'll have a look later.


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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:13 pm 
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yeah, anything that's not defined in -

~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
or
/usr/share/applications/mimeapps.list

is defined as the default in:-

/etc/gnome/defaults.list
(there's also a symlink to this file @ /usr/share/applications/default.list)

But .docx, xmlx etc. ARE actually archives, so in reality are being handled correctly .. that said, it IS a bit of a pain, so if you find a solution I'd appreciate it if you'd post it here :)

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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:26 pm 
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I had no idea they were archives, that explains the x at the end of the file extension.

Do you know how I might go about upgrading pcmanfm in Peppermint 3, short of downloading the source of a newer version and compiling it myself? That is, do you know of any PPA I could use? If not, I'll just go ahead and attempt a compile.

I'm hoping a newer version will fix the file association issues. Otherwise, I might just do an apt-get remove and install. I checked the defaults.list file, and everything looks fine. However, when I open a docx, it attempts to open it in Kingsoft Presentation and not Kingsoft Writer, even though I have it associated with the latter, and the defaults.list confirms that.

It seems like a lot of file associations are messed up. Another problem is that pcmanfm doesn't display the proper icons given the associations. For many office file types, it displays the archive manager icon, even though they actually open in my office programs when I click on them. Other file types just have a generic icon associated with them, even though they too open up in particular programs.

Anyway, this is the last question I'll ask in this thread. If it's an ongoing problem, I'll start a new one.


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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:02 pm 
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IMHO, your best course of action would be to install Peppermint 4, as I could be wrong about it being pcmanfm related (particularly in PM3)

But if you want to give updating pcmanfm/libfm in PM3.....

I wouldn't compile from source, pcmanfm is patched for Ubuntu

Probably easiest to do as you said earlier .. add the lubuntu dev PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+arc ... ntu-daily/
then:
Code:
sudo apt-get update

then
Code:
sudo apt-get install pcmanfm

which *should* just install the most recent pcmanfm and dependencies (libfm4)

then disable the PPA, so nothing else gets updated if you ever run a "apt-get upgrade.

then run:
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sudo apt-get update

again

BE AWARE, that's a "daily" PPA so gets updated often .. so you'll want to check that pcmanfm 1.1.2 and libfm 1.1.9 (for precise) are not in the middle of building (being updated on the PPA) when you run the install.

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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:01 am 
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Yeah, that didn't seem to fix the problems. I solved the issue of .txt files on the NTFS partition from being executed by adding noexec to fstab. I'll just put up with the other things for now. I may give Peppermint 4 a go sometime in the near future, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:20 pm 
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Problem solved by installing SpaceFM, a fork of PCManFM. It correctly recognizes all the file types I was having trouble with (including .docx). It has a few things I'm still getting used to, and a lot of features that PCManFM lacks (I really like the panes).


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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:21 pm 
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I tried it a while back and wasn't overly impressed .. the UI seemed "cluttered" and IIRC was missing some stuff such as trash.

That said, it may have moved on since then .. erm, it'll be interesting to see if they get create a bug free version of pcmanfm when they move to Qt and the colaboration with Razor comes to the forefront.

I don't think there's ever been a version without bugs .. but it's still my favourite file manager.

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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:34 pm 
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Supposedly there is a trash plug-in, I haven't tried it yet. It is annoying that trash is an plug-in, that seems like a basic function of a file manager. I agree, the UI in PCManFM is one of the nicest I've seen of the Linux file managers, the light-weight ones anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Problems mounting ntfs partition (SOLVED)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:44 pm 
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I can't remember too much about that trash plugin, other than either it didn't work or was awkward, or only half fuctional, or didn't make sense .. but IIRC it doesn't do what you expect .. so good luck ;)

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