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 Post subject: Peppermint 5
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:13 pm 
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I took a spin around the forum and did some searches, both here and on the project's main site, and didn't find any mention of a Peppermint 5 in the works. As I understand it, the Ubuntu base Peppermint 4 sits on will hit End of Life later this month. What is the upgrade path from version 4? Is there one? I am really enjoying Peppermint and I'm wondering if there is an upgrade in the works?


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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:30 pm 
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Greetings newguy and welcome to the forum. Peppermint 5 is, indeed, in the works and is slated for release in May / June 2014. Until then, Peppermint 4 will be fully supported. However, not being a rolling release, there is no upgrade path from 4 to 5 so it will require a new install. Glad to hear you are liking P4. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:41 pm 
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Thank you for the quick reply. I'm loving Peppermint 4 and so is everyone I've introduced to this great project. Doing a fresh installation shouldn't be a problem, I made sure my /home partition and root (/) are separate so I suspect the upgrade will be easy..


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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:16 am 
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newguy wrote:
I made sure my /home partition and root (/) are separate so I suspect the upgrade will be easy..


It's certainly a good idea to have a separate /home partition to keep from having to reinstall everything in case of an OS failure or installing respins. Keeping your /home partition when installing a new OS release, while possible, is not really a good idea primarily because of possible (some say inevitable) conflicting configuration files from one version to the next. It is recommended that you backup your data, do a fresh install of the new OS version and then copy your data back as necessary. For me that works out to about 30 minutes a year....not bad. ;)

Of course, if you like what you have and would rather maintain the status quo, there's no urgent need to upgrade to the latest release. I know of people still using ICE and P3 is still widely in use.

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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:41 am 
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mac wrote:
It's certainly a good idea to have a separate /home partition [...]

Keeping your /home partition when installing a new OS release, while possible, is not really a good idea primarily because of possible (some say inevitable) conflicting configuration files from one version to the next.

Golden!

I just wanted to add my 2-cents to this topic... ;)

In my experience, the 'Achilles tendon' is the '/home/.config' folder. Actually, all hidden files/folders in '/home' have the potential to cause problems when upgrading from one version to another, but the settings in the '.config' folder seem to be the_elephant_in_the_room.

When you're running a dev branch (test release), for instance, things change constantly, and there can be some corruption or strange settings in that folder from time_to_time, even during the test cycle.

If a user has the time and wherewithal to pick through these conf files/folders, determine which ones are giving them grief, and correct the problem(s), fine. However...

I judge this to be in the realm of the 'advanced user' and hobbyists (seeking a learning experience) . Recycling your old './home' partition seldom works without modification.

Caveat emptor...

That said, if you're looking for trouble, À la Dirty Harry (You have to ask yourself, "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do you, punk?)

Go ahead and rename '/home/.config' and let the conf files and folders rebuild themselves.

It's a crapshoot, but it usually works for me. 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
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Based on my experience, usually renaming one (or two) configuration directories and thus "resetting" to desktop's configuration works well.


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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:23 am 
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VinDSL wrote:
Caveat emptor...if you're looking for trouble, À la Dirty Harry ... You have to ask yourself, "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do you, punk?
:lol: Great!

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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
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newguy wrote:
Based on my experience, usually renaming one (or two) configuration directories and thus "resetting" to desktop's configuration works well.

Then by all means go for it. :) If and when you do, help others out by posting back with which config files you had to change along with any other problems / solutions you encounter.

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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
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mac wrote:
Great!

Extra credit reading: Forty Years of Dirty Harry and His .44 Magnum

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"For Smith & Wesson, the film was the greatest advertisement money never had to buy. The Model 29 wasn’t even in production at the time the movie was filmed. According to an article in the September, 1972 issue of Guns magazine, Clint Eastwood got in touch with Bob Sauer a representative from Smith & Wesson about the gun he wanted. They had to assemble a couple of revolvers together from parts in the factory."

Didn't mean to derail the discussion (I do live in cowboy country).

Okay, back on topic... :D

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 Post subject: Re: Peppermint 5
PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:47 am 
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newguy wrote:
Based on my experience, usually renaming one (or two) configuration directories and thus "resetting" to desktop's configuration works well.

mac wrote:
Then by all means go for it. :)

I was running PM2 on a PM4 core, for awhile. PM4 ran fine, using the PM2 '/home/ partition'.

I *suspect* the PM4 confs will require a little more tweaking under PM5, but that's just a hunch. ;)

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