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 Post subject: Routers and wireless printers. (Solved)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:34 pm 
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My immediate problem is getting an Epson Stylus SX425W printer to work with a inksys EA6700) router. My building has switched ISP and that forced me to purchase a new router. I have discovered that my wireless multi-functional printer is not supported by the new router. As you can see from the following link, there are very few printers that are supported http://kb.linksys.com/Linksys/GetArticle.aspx?docid=61c0cd287b6d4d36b70a99ad813949ed_List_of_tested_USB_hard_drives_and_printers_for_the_Linksys_.xml&pid=80&converted=0

This got me looking at other routers, and I have noticed a similar problem with other "recently produced" routers. There appear to be very few wireless printers and multifunctionals in general that are supported by any specific router model/producer, despite being able to connect to the same wireless protocols that the routers support. What the *!§€ is going on here?

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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:42 pm 
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A wireless printer shouldn't need ANY special "support" from the router .. as long as the router is wireless.

a wireless printer should work with ANY wireless router .. prociding they use the same frequency range, and the printer supports the encryption type the router is set to use.

What exactly is the problem you're having ?

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The only time a printer would need "support" from a router is if the router contains a print server for USB attached printers.

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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:02 pm 
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Have you tried connecting your printer via the printer control panel

Here's a step by step guide for your printer

http://support.epson-europe.com/onlineguides/en/fy10_nwg/panel/g_html/manual_01.htm

Hope that helps


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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:21 pm 
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Thanks for the quick replies. It was also my expectation that the printer should just work with the new router. The printer works fine with the "old" router, and I can connect to it at any time by using the settings dialog as described in your link. However the old router connects to the Internet through a coaxial cable connection to a plug in the wall. The new ISP uses a different system with a plug with Ethernet sockets, therefore the need for a new router. The new Linksys router (recommended by the ISP) is "dual band" and operates at both 2.4 and 5 GHz. With the help of Linksys support, the two bands have been divided into two different connections, with different names. Only the 2.4 GHz connection shows in the printer control panel. The router has also been set to clone my computer's MAC address. When I try to connect the printer to the 2.4 GHz connection, it always ends with an error message (code w-51)

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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:20 pm 
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Thanks, in advance, for reminding me that I hadn't setup the printer on this laptop, since my fresh Peppermint Four Re-Spin install. 8-)

Personally, I find that the easiest, fastest, and most trouble-free way to setup printers in Ubu-based distros is to use the CUPS web browser UI.

Every device on my LAN, wired and wireless, share the same local printer.

In Chromium, simply navigate to:
Code:
http://127.0.0.1:631


While I was setting up my 'wireless' printer (wireless connection from my laptop to my router -> which is connected
to my print server via CAT5 -> which is connected to a local printer via a Centronics cable) I checked to see if YOUR
printer is supported by CUPS...


    Image

I didn't see your printer listed, but that doesn't mean one of the other CUPS drivers won't work.

I know we're sort of talking apples n' oranges here, so I'll stop, but I thought that this method might give you some ideas.

Really, the only luck I've ever had, setting up LAN printers in Ubu-based installs et al. is using this browser interface.

Thanks, again, for reminding me to setup my printer... ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:43 pm 
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At what point in getting the printer to associate with the router does the process fail and give you the error ?

In the router is it possible to disable 802.11ac (or 5ghz band) and select 802.11 b/g/n ?

What type of encryption is the router using

What is the output from:
Code:
sudo iwlist scanning

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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:11 am 
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PCNetSpec wrote:
At what point in getting the printer to associate with the router does the process fail and give you the error ?
When the "wireless wizard" completes.

PCNetSpec wrote:
In the router is it possible to disable 802.11ac (or 5ghz band) and select 802.11 b/g/n ?
It is possible to disable the 5GHz band.

PCNetSpec wrote:
What type of encryption is the router using
WPA2/WPA Mixed personal

PCNetSpec wrote:
What is the output from:
Code:
sudo iwlist scanning
The relevant ones are:
ESSID:"Linksys02241_2.4"
and
ESSID:"Linksys02241_5"
Code:
$ sudo iwlist scanning
eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.

eth1      Scan completed :
          Cell 01 - Address: 48:F8:B3:86:D4:98
                    Channel:11
                    Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                    Quality=66/70  Signal level=-44 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"Linksys02241_2.4"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000000000000000
                    Extra: Last beacon: 60ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 00104C696E6B73797330323234315F322E34
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 03010B
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0100
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: 0B0502002E0000
                    IE: Unknown: 2D1A2D1817FFFFFF0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 3D160B081100000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 7F080000080000000040
                    IE: Unknown: DD930050F204104A0001101044000102103B000103104700104B332A7173847C4EF4EE7523CFA9F1851021000B4C696E6B737973204C4
C431023000E
4C696E6B73797320454136373030102400094541363730302D45551042000230311054000800060050F2040001101100134C696E6B737
97330323234315F322E3420415010080002200C103C0001031049000600372A000120
                    IE: Unknown: DD090010180202001C0000
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101800003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
          Cell 02 - Address: 00:1E:8C:3E:9F:20
                    Channel:11
                    Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                    Quality=53/70  Signal level=-57 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on

          Cell 07 - Address: 48:F8:B3:86:D4:99
                    Channel:36
                    Frequency:5.18 GHz (Channel 36)
                    Quality=70/70  Signal level=-34 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"Linksys02241_5"
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s
                              36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000000000000000
                    Extra: Last beacon: 60ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 000E4C696E6B73797330323234315F35
                    IE: Unknown: 01088C129824B048606C
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 0B050000010000
                    IE: Unknown: 2D1A6F0817FFFFFF0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 3D16240D0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 4A0E14000A002C01C800140005001900
                    IE: Unknown: 7F080100080000000040
                    IE: Unknown: BF0C3258820FEAFF0000EAFF0000
                    IE: Unknown: C005012A000000
                    IE: Unknown: C30402020202
                    IE: Unknown: DD930050F204104A0001101044000102103B000103104700104B332A7173847C4EF4EE7523CFA9F1851021000B4C696E6B737973204C4
C431023000E4C696E6B737973
20454136373030102400094541363730302D45551042000230311054000800060050F2040001101100134C696E6B73797330323234315F
322E3420415010080002200C103C0001031049000600372A000120
                    IE: Unknown: DD090010180200001C0000
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101800003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
          Cell 08 - Address: 4A:F8:B3:86:D4:9A
                    Channel:11
                    Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                    Quality=68/70  Signal level=-42 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000000000000000
                    Extra: Last beacon: 60ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 00200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 03010B
                    IE: Unknown: 050400010000
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0100
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : CCMP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: 0B050000450000
                    IE: Unknown: 2D1A2D1817FFFFFF0000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 3D160B081100000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 7F080000080000000040
                    IE: Unknown: DD090010180200001C0000
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101800003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00

lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.

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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:36 pm 
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First thing I'd do is change the 2.4ghz band to something other than
channel 11 .. say to channel 6 .. as therre are other networks around
on channel 11.

then you want to try (one at a time, and only temporarily as a test) di
the 5ghz band, and encryption.
So we can check if encryption or the 5ghz band are confusing things.

I gather this router can also have some kind of wireless phone attached ?
if so, is there an option to disable that .. if so, try it

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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:33 pm 
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PCNetSpec wrote:
First thing I'd do is change the 2.4ghz band to something other than
channel 11 .. say to channel 6 .. as there are other networks around
on channel 11.

then you want to try (one at a time, and only temporarily as a test) [...]

Good point!

I'm floating in a sea of routers -- with more popping up every day -- two more this morning. I'm surprised my hair doesn't glow in the dark. :D

To make the situation worse, my electric utility company recently installed 'Smart Meters' in our neighborhood. I can't listen AM radio now, due to the buzzing.

And, last but not least, we have numerous cell phone towers in this area, adding to the RF interference matrix.

The only channel that's works reliably for ME is channel 5, so I pinned it.

Just saying...

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 Post subject: Re: Routers and wireless printers.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:56 pm 
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PCNetSpec wrote:
First thing I'd do is change the 2.4ghz band to something other than
channel 11 .. say to channel 6 .. as therre are other networks around
on channel 11.
I changed it to channel 7.

PCNetSpec wrote:
then you want to try (one at a time, and only temporarily as a test) di
the 5ghz band, and encryption.
So we can check if encryption or the 5ghz band are confusing things.
Done

PCNetSpec wrote:
I gather this router can also have some kind of wireless phone attached ?
if so, is there an option to disable that .. if so, try it
Not that I am aware of.

Still no luck.

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